I read your post and I suddenly realised that you don't know how evolution works at all and were still trying to argue with me and this made me incredibly annoyed
Especially because you also quoted me as saying the exact opposite of what I wrote, but as you weren't paying attention in secondary school science I am beginnning to wonder how good your reading comprehension is anyway, or maybe you just didn't bother looking at it at all and just made stuff up and stuck it in my mouth
You keep implying that people who have good jobs and do "well" in life equates to having kids, but then you bring up how people with higher educations have more kids, which is pretty paradoxical.
No, I do not.
I say that people who have good jobs and do well would be the people that have more kids is what
Grent is arguing and that people with a higher education have
less kids.
As you are stating the
exact opposite[/i] of what I actually wrote I am starting to wonder whether you either didn't bother reading my post or are just unable to speak in English.
And you completely missed my point on how children's death and thinning the herd, because that definitely happens
No I didn't, as we've already established you just didn't actually bother even
reading my point.
sure, maybe a very smart kid dies, but people die all the damn time,
That really doesn't support your argument in the slightest. If someone smart has an equal chance of death it actually supports mine.
Also it's bullshit, people in cities don't die all the time.
how can you say that all these kids didn't die because they were stupid?
Because that isn't at all how disease works, and children don't die all the time because they are so dumb that they walk off cliffs, that's what hospitals are for.
How in the world could you know that?
Because I'm not a complete moron, if people died because they weren't smart then we would all have become extinct because we died as children before we evolved brains.
THERE IS NO MAGIC BRAIN FUNCTION THAT PSYCHICALLY MEASURES THE INTELLIGENCE OF EVERYONE NEARBY AND THEN TERMINATES THE CHILD IF IT IS NOT AS SMARTSo people who have good parents and aren't deform don't die? That's bullshit (To be fair, we all die, but hey, that doesn't matter.)
No, they don't die
as infants and even then they have a good chance of dying
So they have a chance to spread their genes, so people do not evolve because both groups have a pretty much equal chance of spreading their genes.
I begin to wonder if you even understand how genetics work
And your final sentence pretty much is the exact opposite of all you have said, the virus and diseases evolve, true, but have you ever gotten chicken pox?
Yes, and the fact that everyone on the planet is not completely immune to chickenpox by now proves absolutely nothing at all that would aid your point so I don't know why you brought it up.
(I doubt you have since the vaccines are pretty much everywhere, but that is a good example of modern man-made evolution.)
Vaccines are not evolution
Afterwords, you don't get it again, because you have just evolved, you have evolved past this disease and are now genetically and chemically altered because of it
Oh my God
as the virus evolve, we evolve, every single day, and that's just on a genetic level at a major point, we evolve nearly every moment, every sound, movement, gust of air, and germ that touches you has altered you, and you have now evolved past what you once were
You... you really
are an idiot
because that's just how time works, there is no such thing as yesterday, you are not who you were yesterday, the entirety of you is gone, and a new evolved version of yourself is here, and by the time you have finished reading this, you have just evolved, at a micro-scopic level?
NO
NO I HAVEN'T
YOU ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT GENETICS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TIME
THIS IS NOT HOW GENES, EVOLUTION OR THE PASSING ON OF TRAITS WORK
A man who works out gets more muscles. This
does not change his genes at all. His children are not born stronger.
The every day actions we have help us improve as an individual.
THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EVOLUTION.Working out, eating healthily, becoming smart, taking a vaccine.
NONE OF THESE THINGS HAVE ANY EFFECT AT ALL ON YOUR GENES.
YOU DO NOT CHANGE DAILY "ON A GENETIC LEVEL". THIS IS COMPLETELY INACCURATE AND STUPID.Of course, but that was a couple of minutes of changing.
NO
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR CHILDREN
THE CHANGES YOU MAKE DAILY AS AN INDIVIDUAL
DO NOT CHANGE YOUR GENESNONE OF THESE TRAITS ARE PASSED ON
THAT IS NOT HOW GENES WORK
Our children evolve beyond us, and theirs will be beyond them, it has nothing to do if you had good parents, or what education you had, your offspring has mixed your genes, with the genes of another, and a more evolved being has been created.
/facepalm
Right
Before you start spouting more completely inaccurate bullshit, probably now enraged because I have told you exactly how misled you are, here is an explanation about how evolution actually works:
Once upon a time, a man called Lamarck came up with an idea about how animals changed over time.
He posited that an animals traits were passed on to its children when it mated, so as it went about its business doing its best to fit into its environment it would change itself and pass on these traits to its kids, who would do the same to their kids. These changes would build up over time until the animal was far more suited to its environment.
For example, to reach food on a higher tree, a giraffe might stetch its neck. Its children would be born with longer necks because of this, and would do the same until the giraffe had transformed from some kind of spotty horse to the shape you know today.
This is called Lamarckian evolution.
This is what you believe happens in real life, that people do things, the individual changes they make on a daily basis edit their genes, and that these new genes are passed on to their kids.
THIS IS WRONG AND STUPID.Real evolution happens like this:
A species of animal lives in an environment. Every generation, some animals are very very slightly different than the rest due to mutations on a genetic level, almost all of which are far too small to see but still have some small effect on the animal's behaviour.
Some of these mutations are unhelpful, and the animals having them die earlier. These animals produce fewer offspring because they do not live as long, so their genes are not passed on very far.
Some of the mutations are helpful, and the animals having them die later. These animals produce a greater amount of offspring, and so do the offspring of their offspring. In this way, eventually, most members of the species will have whatever trait made the animal more successful in the first place. These very very small changes build up over time, until eventually you get the species we know today.
In human society, no such pressure exists.
People are still born with minor mutations, but they have little to no effect on how many children the person has.
Arguably the most "desirable" characteristic in a human would be someone with a high paying job, however you can exchange this for whatever criteria you would say makes a "successful" person. The amount of success someone has in the human world isn't the same as that of an animal. We have tamed our environment completely and there is no risk of death anywhere, even if you are a complete idiot.
The amount of success you have also has little to do with the amount of children you have due to the advent of birth control. Even if people with more success are more popular with the opposite gender, something that really isn't even necessarily true, the arrival of birth control means that people can have all the sex they like without having kids, and the prevailing opinion among many (not all, but most) people with high paying jobs is that they don't have time for children.
In comparison, people with a low IQ or people who have low paying jobs or drop out of college have arguably got "unsuccesful" genes. These people
are no less likely to have kids than successful ones and if anything are possibly more likely.
The fact that they are more likely is basically irrelevant, because either way we aren't evolving, but it is perhaps still interesting to note that people with less money have less access to birth control, and people with a lower intelligence are less likely to use it or use it correctly, so they are in fact more likely to produce children than people with more successful genes.
THIS IS EVOLUTION AND THIS IS WHY IT IS NOT HAPPENING.Taking a vaccine is not evolution. Vaccines inject dead or weakened pathogens into your bloodstream which are then recognised by your immune system.
It has no effect on your genes, and thus no effect on evolution.
Sounds are not evolution. Sound waves are picked up by your ears and heard by your brain.
They have no effect on your genes, and thus no effect on evolution.
Movements are not evolution. Movement is something you do to move around and get things done.
It has no effect on your genes, and thus no effect on evolution.
A germ that touches you is unlikely to penetrate the epidermis. If it does, it will either do nothing (as most germs are harmless and this one is alone), give you some kind of disease or get killed by your immune system.
None of the above have an effect on your genes, and the second case is only evolution if you are too dumb to go to hospital and get it cured, thus removing your genes from circulation.
Evolution is not some magical force that kills babies because they are stupid.
Evolution is not he same as personal improvement, it simply affects the base state you are born into as a combination of the genes of your parents.
Evolution is not what you were talking about in your previous post.
Please don't make such basic mistakes again.