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Post by Zarth on Mar 25, 2009 18:13:41 GMT -5
The logo needs more, make it look it was painted with a brush or something, thats just tooooo simple.
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Post by Balto-Boy on Mar 25, 2009 18:15:26 GMT -5
I gotta agree with these folks. The logo does look really good, but it does seem a bit too simple. At least for SPB, anyways.
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Post by Zarth on Mar 25, 2009 18:18:14 GMT -5
I got an idea, since rabies made the logo for this forum, why not have him make the logo for the website? He's pretty good at making logos.... with the domain thing, don't you have to pay for it be up or something? and if you do... Whos going to pay for it?
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Post by destructin on Mar 25, 2009 18:24:22 GMT -5
I got an idea, since rabies made the logo for this forum, why not have him make the logo for the website? He's pretty good at making logos.... with the domain thing, don't you have to pay for it be up or something? and if you do... Whos going to pay for it? Last time he said he didn't want to make a logo. I don't know about now.
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Post by Balto-Boy on Mar 25, 2009 18:54:19 GMT -5
with the domain thing, don't you have to pay for it be up or something? and if you do... Whos going to pay for it? You can either get on a service website like GoDaddy.com, or I think you could also get a hold of an ISP company and they'll host it.
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Post by Zarth on Mar 25, 2009 18:58:23 GMT -5
with the domain thing, don't you have to pay for it be up or something? and if you do... Whos going to pay for it? You can either get on a service website like GoDaddy.com, or I think you could also get a hold of an ISP company and they'll host it. me?! Your the admin! lol
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Post by Balto-Boy on Mar 25, 2009 19:00:49 GMT -5
You can either get on a service website like GoDaddy.com, or I think you could also get a hold of an ISP company and they'll host it. me?! Your the admin! lol No, when I say "you" I'm mean anyone who- ... Ooooooooh...
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Post by Grimscott on Mar 25, 2009 19:02:03 GMT -5
me?! Your the admin! lol No, when I say "you" I'm mean anyone who- ... Ooooooooh... By golly, Balto! Wheeljack would've gotten it faster than that. >_>
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Post by Balto-Boy on Mar 25, 2009 19:03:41 GMT -5
By golly, Balto! Wheeljack would've gotten it faster than that. >_> Shh. You shouldn't be judging anyone, Octomom.
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Post by Grimscott on Mar 25, 2009 19:07:18 GMT -5
By golly, Balto! Wheeljack would've gotten it faster than that. >_> Shh. You shouldn't be judging anyone, Octomom. I hate you with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns. The heat from which I hope you die in a fire from.
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Post by Gront on Mar 25, 2009 21:45:38 GMT -5
Well, I personally LOVE the logo. I think it'd work better with the overall feel McJ and I were going to try to accomplish with the proposed new site. Still, if everyone else disagrees, we could come up with a different one. Well, erm... Elementell has informed me that he knows PHP pretty well... Well enough to fuck over the site, obviously. I don't have to do coding myself, but I'll be damned if I let you let him do it.
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Post by Zarth on Mar 26, 2009 13:35:20 GMT -5
Could you give us an example on how the site would look like? Tell us qhat you guies are going to do.
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Post by McJesus on Mar 26, 2009 17:11:29 GMT -5
We haven't gotten that far yet Zarth. The other day was brainstorming for ideas. Soon we'll start building the basics.
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Post by Zarth on Mar 26, 2009 19:08:45 GMT -5
Worded it wrong... And way, what i was trying to say. Could you tell us the ideas you came up with?
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Post by Gront on Mar 26, 2009 19:15:48 GMT -5
We haven't gotten that far yet Zarth. The other day was brainstorming for ideas. Soon we'll start building the basics. I kinda lost that brainstorming thing, btw... could you pm me with a link to the convo or something? I think stw takes .txt files...
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Post by Zarth on Mar 26, 2009 19:24:57 GMT -5
We haven't gotten that far yet Zarth. The other day was brainstorming for ideas. Soon we'll start building the basics. I kinda lost that brainstorming thing, btw... could you pm me with a link to the convo or something? I think stw takes .txt files... If you both have MSN, you can send it over that you know.
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Post by McJesus on Mar 26, 2009 19:34:12 GMT -5
Sure can grent. We'll compile the list of ideas we had for the rest of you!
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Post by Gront on Mar 27, 2009 5:53:12 GMT -5
Compressed from a massive wall of text into a slightly less massive wall of text. Read all of them before you bitch and moan, please. Actually, read all of them even if you weren't planning on bitching and/or moaning.
The forum needs a huge button that says FORUM: WHERE THE ACTION IS, With a bunch of action in it (guns, muscle guys, car chases, helicopter explosions, etc)
I was thinking we'd entirely remake the forum and integrate the user accound system into the site as a whole. As it is right now, anything we want to have use our usernames, we need to make a forum topic about. With the new system, we could have an entire section seperate from the forum for, say, Brawl Mart, with brawlios and all that integrated. So you click buy and it's sorted instantaneously (with a guy grinning and saying GREAT PURCHASE).
This could work for rosters, too. We could have a special section for your roster under profile instead of the roster index. We'd use a character template where you upload a picture here here and here and fill in the blanks (weakness, strength, age, bio, etc). With the roster system we could double check a lot of things, like if the character is already taken and such. Also, it would make it easy to program an automated roster index sorted by character name, creator name, etc. There could also be a system where family trees could be created, (with links to related characters), and a version of this could include mutually accepted inter-user relationships (a la Grim and Yaca).
I was thinking creating a character could cost an increasing number of brawlios per character, so newbs can't have a ton of characters until they get experienced, but long time users like McJ, Ghost, and Grim could keep their masses.
I hear there's a way to get username info from php to flash; we could even have the game connected to your profile. (No promises on this one; I'd have to work on a way to do it).
We should have an award system... referred to as benchmarks (first this in that, first that in this,etc.). You don't have to bother telling me that I was opposed to this; I know, but I feel that if the benchmarks were intelligently selected and the system was integrated into the site, we could do it with out too many "benchmark spams." You get a couple brawlios for doing that. Mods would ban you if you attempted those things half-assedly. If we log all IPs, we could IP ban any computer the user has appeared on, assuming another unbanned user hasn't used it (i.e. SUPAHBAN).
The ban list needs a comment section for each ban (why they're banned, who exactly the ip belongs to, etc) (lol we could have bad benchmarks, too. -5 Brawlios for first ban) Bans come with demerits. Every ban you get, you lose x2 brawlios you lost before (5, 10, 20, 40, and so on). Ban length would also be based on demerits (3 bans you get a week long ban, 5 bans you get a month, etc.[ban lengths and number of bans negotiable, of course]). There'd be a way to reset this in the case of unjustified bans, of course. If the user is okay for x number of months then the brawlio demerits go down. A certain number of demerits and you get permabanned (maybe demerits divided by legitimate forum posts).
We could have a character auction, and maybe a character adoption, where if a user is gone for an extended period of time, other users can buy or take their character(s),
We could have a completely remade concept art forum that uses the premade templates, maybe even foring users to get approval from a certain number of their peers before submitting a character to their roster. You could make small edits, then it would make it easy to transfer to your roster when you're ready.
Here's a big one: pics hosted on the site. With a TB of space (shouldn't be a problem on a decent server) and imposing a 1MB filesize limit, we could store around 1,000,000 pics (minus a few for server files). Also, we could FORCE users to upload only PNG filetypes.
Basic main menu (at the top and bottom of pages) would be as follows: | HOME | ABOUT | NEWS | FORUM | CHAT | MEMBERS | BRAWL MART | BRAWL HQ | LOG IN/OUT |
The "Truth News guys" (basically just newscasters, as McJ described them to me) would have two big panels on the front page, one for legit news, and one for forum stuff. There'd be a little news ticker at the bottom, too, with random (probably funny) things). They'd have poor-man's animations (simple opening and closing mouth for talking, maybe a periodic paper shuffle) and use word bubbles to convey the news.
Accompanied with the Truth News team would be an RSS feed with news, maybe with forum posts. This feed would be hosted elsewhere so in case of emergency, users can get info on what's going on.
We'd have a legitimate chat room, one that you would use your normal account for (so certain people wouldn't be able to pose as other people).
Instead of the art forum, we'd have the Art Gallery. When uploading pics into any topic on the forum, you would have the opportunity to "Showcase" them in the art gallery, or put them up for voting purposes. You can also put art directly into the gallery, but it would be showcased without asking you, (so users only put things in the gallery that they think are good). Comments would be available on "Showcased" works, along with the ability to rate the image from 0 to 10. The average of all a user's pics' ratings would result in the artist's tier ranking (we might allow for pics that are very old to be deleted/not counted in ratings to account for an artist's improvement over time). That way there's not any arguing over tier levels (finally!). In addition to links to the most recently updated galleries, the main gallery page would also list the top 25 (or 50 if there's enough) rated pictures. A user could only vote once for each pic, so zero spamming would be minimized. In a user's profile, we'd probably have all the things that we have now, along with their tier ranking and links to their roster, inventory, and gallery.
Now here's some ideas I came up with on my own after mine and McJ's conversation ended: Maybe we should have a user's room system (kown as "pads" so we can be totally hip) that a user can spend Brawlios to trick out. In addition to furniture and stuff (the brawlios for purchasing which would go to absolutely nobody), users could showcase purchases from Brawl Mart, including those plushies that, at the moment, no one seems to be buying (users could showcase useable items like Assist Trophies, too, but couldn't use them if displayed in their room). The pads could even replace the profile system, with doors in the pad to their gallery, roster, and inventory (possibly just a treasure chest or crate in the room). Their forum info (posts, art tier, etc.) could be on their door (the number of which could cleverly be their user number), and the room would be revealed after entering the pad.
Grudges could have a special system to engage in. Through a revamped Brawl HQ, users could select opponents to challenge, specify time limits to post, useable item rules, possibly even specific characters to fight. The system would generate a premade starter pic for the grudge and randomly select which player goes first (if one is not specified). Official responses to the grudges would be added differently from comments, so the system could tell when a player responded (for the time limits), and so noobs can't randomly try to join one-on-ones (or so we don't have another "just as planned" incident, hilarious as it was). This would also allow for a "attacks only" viewing option for the grudge. If one player misses the preset time limit (if one is set), the other user would have that much time to make a finisher picture or it would be a draw. Bets could be handled more intelligently, too, with betting restrictions based on number of official responses, instead of page numbers.
Fanfics could have a similar system where official posts are seperate from comments for a "read only" funtion. Also, they could be rated like the gallery and listed in the profile (or a bookshelf in the pad if the system is implemented).
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Post by McJesus on Mar 27, 2009 11:16:43 GMT -5
ADMIT IT, THIS IS GOLD
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Post by Zarth on Mar 27, 2009 11:44:36 GMT -5
Lol, yeah. Lots of great ideas. But were going to need a place to put the game, like a portal area that NG has or something, I dunno… And another thing, the brawlios we have now, will they be transferred over to the site? Or would we have to work at getting again?
Also. Could we have this thing, that can determine who’s a vet and who’s not? Like in their profile they have this gold badge be their name or something?
And maybe have it set like this in ranks or something.
New guy = no badge. (People who come to the new website.)
Vets =silver badge (people from this forum and have been around for quite some time.)
Hero = gold badge (people from the old Ng thread)
But the hero name you guys can change if you want, this is just an example.
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Post by Maybe Might Not Be Moneybags on Mar 27, 2009 11:44:39 GMT -5
Alright, all this sounds great, but I think we need the system to be quick and easy to pick up. If it's really cool but too complicated we alienate new users.
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Post by Gront on Mar 27, 2009 12:07:32 GMT -5
Were going to need a place to put the game, like a portal area that NG has or something, I dunno… I forgot to mention that. The Art Gallery might also function as a brawl-themed flash portal if we get a good enough server. The game would probably be independent, however, and might actually connect to your profile, perhaps a special decorational item for winning the game or something. And another thing, the brawlios we have now, will they be transferred over to the site? Or would we have to work at getting again? I personally think it would be better to transfer them over because of the proposed thing where we have to use brawlios to buy new characters for our rosters. It's primary function would be to prevent newbies from character spamming, so transferring our brawlios might be the quickest way to get our characters back without having to put a potentially complicating piece of code in to let user x have y number of brawlers for free. Also. Could we have this thing, that can determine who’s a vet and who’s not? Like in their profile they have this gold badge be their name or something? And maybe have it set like this in ranks or something. New guy = no badge. (People who come to the new website.) Vets =silver badge (people from this forum and have been around for quite some time.) Hero = gold badge (people from the old Ng thread) But the hero name you guys can change if you want, this is just an example. I kinda like it, although I think we should call the NG vets "Legends" because, although overused, it sounds cooler. We might arrange for some special perk to go along with these. Alright, all this sounds great, but I think we need the system to be quick and easy to pick up. If it's really cool but too complicated we alienate new users. Well, aside from the gallery system (potentially), the basic shell should be pretty easy to figure out. I was thinking of forcing users to run through a basic tutorial of sorts. Like the first character would cost 2 brawlios to create, and if you don't have a character you can only post in the introduction forum, which might have a quick overview of the rules and such. The systems are designed to be user-friendly to a degree as well; the template for character creation should be self-explanatory (fill in your characters powers in the blank that says "powers"). As for the gallery system, we might say that you can't showcase until you've had a certain number of posts so that "you can get your art style down" (with the secret goal of using that time to teach the user what showcasing really does). The "pad" system would be straightforward point-and-click; possibly even easier to navigate for the users who may not be as familiar with forums as the rest of us.
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Post by McJesus on Mar 28, 2009 7:02:30 GMT -5
I was thinking creating a character could cost an increasing number of brawlios per character, so newbs can't have a ton of characters until they get experienced, but long time users like McJ, Ghost, and Grim could keep their masses. Just to clarify, it doesn't cost you anything to make a brawler, it's like unlocking something. If you have x amount of brawlios, you can have a maximum of y brawlers. So if you're an active member of SPB, you can make s'more brawlers IF YOU WANT. Grent'll have to work out how much brawlios a user has received.. maybe only through posts or how many brawlios a user has received in total, iunno. But you shouldn't lose a spot by spending your brawlios.
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Post by Psibat on Mar 28, 2009 7:13:24 GMT -5
I like it, it'd cost a lot I think but yeah...
Only some flaws I cant be bothered pointing out cause they're only minor...
Apart from the rating that might annoy me a little Cause say 5 people vote 7 that'd average out at 7 (7+7+7+7+7/5=7) Now say 1 other person did 0 that would be 5.83334 (7+7+7+7+7+0/6=5.83334) This may happen if a user doesn't like you etc... But in the big grand scheme of things it wouldn't distort the score that much cause it would be rounded etc...
Also maybe something like any score 3 places away from the average should be deleted?
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Post by rabiesisme on Mar 28, 2009 7:27:30 GMT -5
Also maybe something like any score 3 places away from the average should be deleted? Or we can not let the scores ruin our lives.
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Post by McJesus on Apr 5, 2009 22:05:23 GMT -5
AHA PERFECT I did the logo again I think it looks even more spankin' than I thought the previous rendition looked.
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Post by Ele Mantel on Apr 5, 2009 22:06:44 GMT -5
AHA PERFECT I did the logo again I think it looks even more spankin' than I thought the previous rendition looked. [/img][/quote] Still just as simple.
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Post by McJesus on Apr 5, 2009 22:08:37 GMT -5
Well sorry I didn't include 17 bevels and thousands of lens flares. It's just the logo, we can still make splash pages and all that. )8C
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Post by destructin on Apr 5, 2009 22:17:38 GMT -5
Logo needs our "trademark" paintbrush.
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Post by Ele Mantel on Apr 5, 2009 22:18:51 GMT -5
Logo needs our "trademark" paintbrush. We trademarked brushes? What the hell is going on here?
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