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Post by Bulet on Mar 17, 2012 10:37:28 GMT -5
I think FM's trying to say speed != quality
Well, that really is arguable. Most of the time, fast drawings are rushed drawings, meaning less quality.
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Post by Spawner on Mar 17, 2012 11:06:32 GMT -5
That is kind of a terrible idea. Don't try to seperate people based on art skills and shit, that just creates a wall. People are free to draw however they want in Main Arena threads and Grudge Matches and suchlike, but doing anything that would discourage new artists from trying to improve is bad. I didn't mean split of artistic quality, more along the lines of speed of play. People who are able to spend days working on a single picture to make sure it has total secksayness to it can have a subforum for long-term long-deadline fights, while people who just want to jump in for short interval update-heavy threads can peruse the other subforum. I didn't mean to differentiate by artistic skill, just the overall speed of play. I really like this.
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Post by DJGrandPa on Mar 17, 2012 11:55:19 GMT -5
Here's an idea guys. We dont need to reboot shit (see: need, I dont say we shouldnt, or cant). Just join the threads you think are fun, if you dont find any, create new. Discussion is great, unless when it's like this, because if anything, it's just making people enemies with each other and causing unnecessary arguments. I've been on this site for over 2 years (and I also dug through a lot of the old threads when I joined), and I really have not seen any of your names, I've heard them mentioned once or twice, but I have not seen any of you here.
The place has been quite active without you, hell, sometimes I like to think that I've helped it be active at one time or another, whilst you... havent contributed to it at all since I've been here... So maybe you should step down from your white horses and stop your elitist amateurism (there's a new word for the dictionary!) and just try to what you think is fun, and let other people have their fun.
So keep being cool, daddyos!
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Post by Spawner on Mar 17, 2012 12:16:29 GMT -5
Maybe a reboot is the wrong word. More like a cleanup. We still need some new members too, it's not dead in here, but it is slow. It's not hard to get new members, I've asked 4 people and 3 said yes, 2 have already signed up.
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Post by DJGrandPa on Mar 17, 2012 13:27:44 GMT -5
A cleanup? Well, first of all, maybe we should have a clear plan of what that would be, but before that, maybe we should talk over what needs to be done, and not in the way where a bunch of members who hasnt visited in years suddenly have the magic potion to how to make this place flourish with drawings again shouts out what needs to be done (and now damn it!), but talk about what (if anything) needs to be done. And mainly just try to get people to wanna post again.
It's not like I have anything against the place becomin better, I visit the place every day, but I never feel like there's anything for me to post. What we need is for people to wanna contribute, and I hardly think a new skin or new subsections will do the job, though, new members are always good!
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Post by Spawner on Mar 17, 2012 14:31:58 GMT -5
I agree that new members is what we need most, I just think that there's a lot of clutter on the forums, old threads, old rosters of people who no longer come on and all of that, moving them all into sub-forums would pretty it up without losing any of the memories we've gathered.
We should talk over what should be done, and that's what I'm trying to do here, but most of the existing members I've asked don't seem to give a damn and refuse to post what they think.
I know I don't have a magic potion for how to make it better, but just because I haven't been here doesn't mean I have no idea what could be done to better the place. I've posted what I think and I'm waiting for everyone else to post theirs, so far the only person to post any ideas is me. I'll keep trying to get more members.
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Post by destructin on Mar 17, 2012 15:04:42 GMT -5
DJ's right, you guys did come out of the blue, and want to drastically change/clean/reboot/whatever things.
I see what you guys are trying to do, we all want to do make SPB active again, and I don't know if you guys are joking about the adminship stuff or not, but don't expect you guys getting admin or any sort of moderation powers.
Grent is gonna be the new admin, so don't worry about passing the torch.
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Post by DJGrandPa on Mar 17, 2012 15:08:53 GMT -5
I dunno, how are old threads a problem? New threads are up first, so all old pages gets buried behind, I've never had any problem with old threads. I haven't been asked anything, I've posted what I think, and I've posted my ideas on what to do to get good ideas. Because, to be honest, I dont see the point of making sub-forums (which makes a pretty complicated site even more complicated for newbies), and I dont see the point in making new skins either. I'm not trying to be a party popper (or is it pooper? I dunno.) But I just feel that someone got an idea out of the blue, and people just kinda jumped in on it because they want change, but don't know what change exactly. As for ideas? Just try to be active even if you dont feel like it too much at first, and people are bound to start drawing again, instead of complaining about what you dont like, try to do what you do like My 200 cents.
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Post by Bulet on Mar 17, 2012 15:19:06 GMT -5
Well DJ, we're not revolutionaries with a giant project to make this place magically better, we just want to spurce things up a bit, nothing wrong with that, right? Get a few new members and make new friends. We're doing everything we can to make it better.
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Post by DJGrandPa on Mar 17, 2012 15:25:57 GMT -5
I'm not saying it's wrong to want to make good, however, it's wrong to not make sure that you're actually doing good, because all I see are ideas that does not have much with the problem to do, AKA, they are ideas that will come in handy once the place is up and running again, hell, just getting new members wont fix it alone, all members needs to become more active, I think we can all agree on that, new members might help, but in the end, we cant suspect to just 'magically* get the urge to post here again.
So instead of sitting here and arguing about this, go post in whatever threads you feel like. We won't care if you post in the 2007 thread or the Apocalypse thread. We're all different, and hey, there's nothing wrong with being different.
(I would make a post in the apocolypse thread, but my internet is slow, and all the drawings wont show.)
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Post by DaringVonContra on Mar 17, 2012 16:59:31 GMT -5
In all honestly, Ive been here since 07 and participated all the way through it, if anyone should complain about about how much brawl has changed and shit. It should be me, and even then you dont see me going around saying 'oh hey we need to reform this place bro, we need change everything.' No, I dont because Ive seen this place evolve and grow, Ive seen the capabilities its new members have and the potential it has. You three come back after three years and expect us to change everything cause you are 'veterans' and 'care about the site'. Drop the act, the site has been fine without any change so far, and I believe Grent and Des would make much better admins than you three. Why? Because Ive seen what they can do and trust them because of that, so far all you guys have done is said that you want to 'cleanup' the site and the fact you should be mods because you 'care so much about the site'. Can you code? Can you animate? If we want to get SPB recognized we need people with actual skill running it, not people who are just 'dedicated to it.' I respect its current mods much more than you three, I remember when Swordkill was a mod, he was terrible at it and nothing came of it. In conclusion, get off the soap box, SPB as been running fine without you and its already showing progress.
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Post by Spawner on Mar 17, 2012 17:04:28 GMT -5
There is no act. Who said we wanted to be mods? We're all trying to work together here.
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Post by DaringVonContra on Mar 17, 2012 17:06:30 GMT -5
Well, from what Ive seen in steam chat logs, you have been lampshading the fact that you deserve adminship or some form of moderation. Which I disagree with.
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Post by charlie on Mar 17, 2012 17:09:49 GMT -5
There is no act. Who said we wanted to be mods? We're all trying to work together here. You can't deny, that these are all subtle hints of pleas to become a mod/admin, hell Swordkill wasn't even subtle about it. Spawner: I've admin'd a bucketload of communities, I know how to handle these things, but I'm out of touch with SPB. Deadly Virus: I was a member and former admin/mod of another forum you guys dont know about Bulet: demod people mod new people Bulet: Get in touch with Balto to give someone Admin because Balto does jack shit Bulet: Finish up the forums on the website Please, for the sake of the site, pass the torch, make someone an admin, or try to cooperate with us on this. I'm not doing this because you're a bad admin or something, you're good, I just don't want to give you unnecessary stress and frustration with everyone coming to you asking "hey balto wat do we do". Shotgun being the new admin. JK I'm fucking lazy. But seriously, admin pls.All these plans seem great!
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Post by Spawner on Mar 17, 2012 17:12:03 GMT -5
@ DVC You've also seen I said I'm not the guy for the job since I've been away so long. Des, Grent and Balto will figures things out as soon as they're online, that's what Des told me. Mod or Admin is cool, but I know I don't need, want or deserve it and certainly don't expect to be offered it.
I can't speak for the others.
And SK is joking. I hope.
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Post by destructin on Mar 17, 2012 17:22:09 GMT -5
Yeah, don't worry about any of these guys having any sort of moderation power. Me, Grent, and Balto are gonna have a chat about everything and hopefully we'll think of something to do. Since Grent said he'd have interest in coding the site again if everyone showed interest again on SPB, Grent will definitely continue coding the site (and if not I'll force him to.)
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Post by DJGrandPa on Mar 17, 2012 17:26:46 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but even I would be a better mod here, because I know SPB better than you, and hell, I've never even really felt like I'm a part of the community, but at least I've been here fo 2 years, and I've visited the place almost everyday, and hell, I'm the one who'd be the worst to be a mod here. If any of you seriously think you should become mods, look over what I wrote, and think that I'd probably the worst of the regular visitors.
The whole thing is just "we want", "we miss" and "we would like", well, maybe you shouldnt think so much about "we", but think about "everyone else", or maybe that's part of the problem why this site fell apart? If you havent noticed, I try to reason what is best for everyone on this site, I dont say "well, I wish that SPB will become..."
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Post by SwordKill on Mar 17, 2012 17:50:44 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but even I would be a better mod here, because I know SPB better than you, and hell, I've never even really felt like I'm a part of the community, but at least I've been here fo 2 years, and I've visited the place almost everyday, and hell, I'm the one who'd be the worst to be a mod here. If any of you seriously think you should become mods, look over what I wrote, and think that I'd probably the worst of the regular visitors. The whole thing is just "we want", "we miss" and "we would like", well, maybe you shouldnt think so much about "we", but think about "everyone else", or maybe that's part of the problem why this site fell apart? If you havent noticed, I try to reason what is best for everyone on this site, I dont say "well, I wish that SPB will become..."
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Post by DJGrandPa on Mar 17, 2012 17:56:23 GMT -5
When I said "you", I didn't mean "SwordKill", I meant the guys who come here after 4 years of inactivity and wants to control this place all out of sudden, your sign up date doesnt tell me shit other than that your account was made that date, not how long you've been here or who you are
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Post by Spawner on Mar 17, 2012 19:40:01 GMT -5
I didn't want to say anything more for fear of kicking off some drama, but are you still refering to me? I've already said I don't want control. Maybe originally I was like "okay, sure, if you need me to I can manage forums (not mod)" but after seeing how much you all loathed this idea I certainly don't now. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make anyone mad, really. I'm not trying to make enemies here. I'm sorry if I gave off more of a REVOLUTION vibe rather than an "I have a few ideas" vibe. It's not what I meant to do.
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Post by Candy Biu on Mar 18, 2012 0:26:49 GMT -5
tl;dr please
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Post by pm on Mar 18, 2012 1:18:47 GMT -5
tl;dr everyones gay
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Post by Balto-Boy on Mar 18, 2012 1:31:28 GMT -5
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Post by pm on Mar 18, 2012 1:35:57 GMT -5
Especially Balto
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Post by Gront on Mar 18, 2012 2:05:30 GMT -5
I'm locking this thread because it's turned into a flamewar/joke. For a more serious discussion of the future of SPB, turn here.
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