Alright buckle up, if you care you'll read this whole thing. It's a convo between me, Virus, Spawner, Shackles and Des about the website. There is no TL;DR
Never tell your password to anyone.
Bulet: So what do you think of what Spawner said
Dangerous<33: uhh dunno just woke up
Bulet: Aight read it when you're ready
Bulet: It's a good read
Dangerous<33: Yeah he's full of shit too
Dangerous<33: he's just repeating everything SK said
Bulet: huh
Bulet: No he's not
Bulet: SK is a tool when it comes to talking
Bulet: Spawner atleast said it in a good way
Dangerous<33: Well somewhat, but he's just doing the "OH SPB ISN'T AN ART COMMUNITY IT'S OUR SPECIAL SECRET BRO CLUB"
Bulet: No
Bulet: He just says "We aren't super serious artists who do this shit by some code"
Bulet: He means we're laid back about our art
Dangerous<33: Saying SPB is a secret bro club is not good. I haven't heard someone say anything that since I first met ZeroRed and he was telling off a bunch of new users we got so I told him to shut the fuck up.
Dangerous<33: *anything like that
Dangerous<33: It's a community, we have to be open to progression, advancement, and new users, which is ironic because he's saying we have to advertise yet also saying that the community is just a bunch of friends drawing every 20 minutes
Dangerous<33: And he's jumping to conclusions just as much as Swordkill too, by assuming that I don't think SPB is dying. I know SPB is dying just as well as anybody does.
Dangerous<33: The point is, they're both talking about me like I don't understand, but the thing is, I probably know and understand more about SPB than they do because they haven't been regular users for like 3-4 years
Your chat with Dangerous<33 is now a multi-user chat.
Bulet: I get what you're saying
Bulet: This is one of those arguements where both sides have good points
Bulet: He won't talk
Bulet: Fuck
Dangerous<33: It's fine, I'm going to reply on SPB
Spawner entered chat.
Bulet: Oh hey
Spawner: Chat alerts need to be more in your face.
Bulet: I know right
Bulet: So let's disscuss this
Dangerous<33: fff I'm already like half way through the post
Bulet: Shackles thinks Spawner is full of shit
Bulet: Alright post it anyway
Spawner: He's entitled to his own opinion
Spawner: Just posted in the 2007 thread, by the way
Dangerous<33: I'm not trying to say you guys aren't entitled to your own opinions, by the way, I just disagree with them
Spawner: That's fine. We ain't gonna agree on everything
Spawner: Virus is drawing the next one.
Bulet: Hey so are we going to disscuss this
Bulet: We need more advertising y/n
Dangerous<33: We do advertise, it just doesn't work all the time
Spawner: Do it more. Like I said in my post, SPB in a great idea, with the 2007 thread, no one has to be all "OOH BUT I CAN'T DRAW"
Spawner: In the 2007 thread, that's the point.
Spawner: I'm sure if I went through my friends list I could find a bunch of people who are interested. ElveUK signed up just because I mentioned the concept.
Spawner: I read somewhere that you're not adverising until you get a .com? IMO, that's dumb, someone said advertising a proboards is dumb
Spawner: not advertising is dumb if you ask me, since that thread hasn't had a post in two bloody months, it doesn't look like it's gonna happen
Spawner: Without more members it would be like moving from the basement to the shed.
Dangerous<33: I never said we weren't advertising until we got an official website. I don't know who said that, but that is bullshi
Dangerous<33: *bullshit
Spawner: It was destructin
Dangerous<33: That's odd, because Destructin is still making the most effort out of anyone to advertise SPB
Spawner: We're on steam, I'm sure we've all got a bunch of friends you've made from playing game and stuff, it can be as simple as just linking them to the 2007 thread and they'll probably like what they see
Dangerous<33: Also, if someone goes to SPB and is too intimidated by drawing, then that's their issue. We have threads in the introduction section like "To the new guys that are disappointed in their art" thread where tons of good artists posted all their crappy old works. If we just draw everyone in and go "OH JUST POST IN THIS THREAD AND NEVER PUT ANY EFFORT OR TRY TO IMPROVE YOU DRAWING" then we are being completely counter-productive
Spawner: What is productive?
Dangerous<33: Getting a decent community back up and running and getting people to come on and participate and aspire to improve as artists?
Spawner: That's more like it.
Dangerous<33: Why are you guys so afraid of improvement? If you draw, and you're on the internet, you will ALWAYS see people who are better than you at drawing. TONS of people. SPB should not be some secluded place to hide from the rest of the internet and deny that there are good artists out there.
Spawner: Back up and running and a decent community is more important to me than being a better artist
Dangerous<33: I'm not saying they need to be good artists, I'm saying that they should try to improve.
Spawner: It's not that I'm afraid of improvement, it's that I just want to have fun. To me, the 2007 is fun BECAUSE it's not serious.
Spawner: It's just a bunch of laughs, the bad art makes it fun, and I laugh out loud every time I go through it
Spawner: In my opinion, seeing a serious thread with everyone drawing to the best of their ability is awesome to see, but not as enterataining.
Spawner: I thought we were all here to have fun, not so we could all become [famous artist]
Spawner: If my art improves, it just gets better as it goes along, I've never tried to outdo my last picture every time, I just want some fun. I mean, really, the only things that have been drawn at all lately are in the 2007 thread. Nothing else is going on anywhere.
Spawner: No one seems to care, either.
Spawner: You get like a couple of posts a day, most, if not all in the random thread, and no drawings
Dangerous<33: It doesn't need to be serious. City-Wide is one of the only serious threads we've had in a long time. Most of them are people just drawing and doing completely random things that don't have some direct purpose. You guys are trying to center the community around your personal preferences and trying to push this message that you should never strive to be better. We're not trying to become famous artists. We're just trying to encourage new artists to try and become better so they can feel better about their own art. You dudes are a perfect example of why we should push that mentality, because since you refuse to try and improve, this leaves you feeling intimidated by other artists so you hide away in threads like the 2007 thread where nobody will have anything that challenges your artistic ability.
Spawner: Come to think of it, we've been going downhill for years now, when I left no one draw, even less now.
Spawner: You misunderstand, I'm not pushing the message "don't get better" I'm pushing the message "Just draw something god damnit, it doesn't have to be good as long as you do something"
Spawner: I simply don't care for improving my artistic ability. It's not that I'm afraid of getting better, or that I refuse, it's simply that I don't care about how good your art is, at all, really. As long as you draw and pictures are going back and forth and we're all having a good time, I couldn't care less about how pretty your shit is to look at
Dangerous<33: But that message alone is saying that people should just not try with it and do something. I know you guys think the old SPB way was "OH JUST POST SOMETHING AS FAST AS YOU CAN DON'T BOTHER PUTTING EFFORT OR TIME INTO IT" but that's simply not true. If everybody back then just put minimal time and effort into their drawings, then how come most of those people ended up becoming great artists by now? They were trying just as hard back then to be good as they are today. Don't act like you 'don't care' about artistic ability, because in your SPB post you mentioned one of the reasons for just going to the 2007 thread is so that nobody will be intimidated by better artists.
Spawner: Virus wants in the chat, that cool?
Dangerous<33: Yeah sure
Deadly Virus entered chat.
Spawner: Virus brought up a good point, #
Deadly Virus: Right so
Spawner: 22:53 - Deadly Virus: That's never been my intention, I just dont see any motivation to post in the other threads
Deadly Virus: I'll continue with this here
Spawner: What's the motivation? It's not to get better at drawing, not for me, I just want to have a good time
Deadly Virus: I can't easily jump into the city-wide apocalypse thread for example, there's a very established story and it's hard for a newcomer to find a place in it
Deadly Virus: I totally would post in more serious threads since I have some cool ideas for my characters, but there's very little opportunity
Bulet: How I see it is that City Wide is for the good artists, and the rest of us flock to 2007
Bulet: I personally, I admit, am afraid of people having higher skill than me
Bulet: I'm not ashamed, I know that many of the people on this site are better
Bulet: And I don't cope well with that fact, I don't like going among you guys and posting my mediocre art in your good art threads
Dangerous<33: There's like 5 groups of people running around doing crap. Just join in. The only place I have reserved is the church which is about to collapse anyways. Also, DJGrandpa and Nitroexplosion are both in there. Do you guys have any idea how many people have given those guys shit over their art? But they just keep trucking and join in on things because they want to have fun with the community, not with their 3 other friends.
Deadly Virus: I'm not worried about my art tbh
Bulet: I don't know how well the community will recive me
Bulet: For example MVG is an ass he wouldn't like me joining him at all
Deadly Virus: I used to bitch about it all the time but I've moved on. As long as I can convey my ideas properly I'm fine with it
Bulet: Who else is there
Deadly Virus: Besides, the fact that the city-wide apocalypse is the ONLY serious thread going at the moment isn't very encouraging
Bulet: The church, MVG/balto and that's basicly it
Spawner: Sorry, have fun with the community and not with my 3 other friends? Look, no offence, but what community? Posting in City-Wide is pretty much have fun with 5 other people
Spawner: You can all post in 2007 too, it's not like you're banned
Spawner: It's scriptless fighting with crappy art and lolz.
Dangerous<33: DJGrandpa, Balto, Ruby, Nitro, AveragePony, Icebrigade, Ken (Ken would actually like to have someone interact with him in that thread), and most people in there have multiple characters as well.
Deadly Virus: What's with all this "us vs them" mentality anyway?
Dangerous<33: Also Spud had a couple characters in there but they're not around
Bulet: Are you joking Shackles
Bulet: You can just cross out:
Bulet: Ruby, Balto, AP, I don't know if Ice posts shit
Bulet: There's Kryten but he's not in the zone it seems
Bulet: I know it sounds hypocritical, but they just aren't posting there
Dangerous<33: Ice, AP, and Kryten would all most likely reply if you did something to interact with them
Spawner: How far apart are posts?
Dangerous<33: Ruby and Balto? Probably not
Dangerous<33: A while, but that's because people are making long comics and it's story-driven. Not everything can fit into your tight drawing schedule of 15-20 minutes.
Deadly Virus: I don't understand the hostility here. It's not like we're against putting effort into our work
Bulet: Virus it seems that Spawner is
Bulet: In a way
Deadly Virus: Yeah well, I'm not :c
Spawner: In my MFW MSPB I drew some stuff
Deadly Virus: I'd love to get back into serious brawling again, it's just there's not really many options here
Bulet: Let's just tackle the question here
Bulet: Why don't we all post in City Wide
Bulet: I'm asking Spawner and Virus
Deadly Virus: Sure
Bulet: No
Deadly Virus: I'm not giving up on '07 though
Bulet: I'm asking WHY
Spawner: My reason for not doing my best is simple, I've said it a bunch of times. Less effort = more pictures = faster paced = more fun because shit actually happens + it's un-serious = more laughs
Spawner: I enjoy it more
Bulet: Right so Spawner doesn't like Story-Driven, Dramatic, etc
Bulet: Alright, understandable
Bulet: Virus
Bulet: Oh well Virus is a lazy ass I don't even have to as
Bulet: k
Spawner: Virus knows I like dramatic story-driven.
Spawner: I never said I didn't like those things, stop putting words into my mouth.
Bulet: But you don't like putting effort and time into drawings?
Spawner: Not that I don't like it, it's that I don't want to
Dangerous<33: I seriously think you guys have a skewed opinion of the funniness of the 2007 thread because you guys are involved in it. You guys don't find the City-Wide thread entertaining but I think it's amazing with what it has.
Spawner: Because it's just not as fun as posting in 2007.
Bulet: I don't find 2007 fun at all personaly
Bulet: Fast paced shitty drawings, to me, aren't fun
Spawner: And that's fine, Shackles. But I'm going to contnue doing what I like
Spawner: And if you hate me posting in just 2007, well, tough.
Bulet: I don't hate that, I'm just saying that I don't like it
Spawner: It's what I enjoy, so it's what I'll do.
Bulet: I don't like posting in it
Bulet: I used to
Bulet: But posting in there I feel like part of the problem
Bulet: + I don't find it fun
Spawner: Fine by me. I've been away for several YEARS. I came back to have a bit of fun scribblin' some shit and fighting with my friends
Spawner: At least I'm posting, right?
Spawner: Some activity, for a change
Dangerous<33: I'm not saying you shouldn't do what you enjoy, I've said countless times that you guys should draw how you want, but you seem to just be going into the 2007 thread to better artists can't run in there and ruin all the fun for you or anything. I've seen like 15-20 people posting over and over about all this OH SPB IS SO DEAD, REMEMBER HOW GOOD IT WAS IN THE OLD DAYS???!! and it's getting old. Everybody knows SPB is dead. the 2007 thread is not reviving it in any way.
Spawner: I could just as easily go away for another 3 years, but without some fresh meat I doubt anyone will be here in 3 more years
Deadly Virus: We're not saying it is, man
Deadly Virus: We're just having a bit of fun, leave us be
Bulet: Have your fun, but don't call it dead and try to revive it with 2007, it's not working
Spawner: Why do you think I have a reason behind everything I say or do? I keep saying this
Spawner: I post in 2007 because I think it's fun
Spawner: THat's it
Spawner: Not because I want to go LOL SPB IS DED
Spawner: Or because I want to go FUCK YOU BETTER ARTISTS
Dangerous<33: You guys act like I'm the one running in and kicking the shit out of your little parade. I'm not going to push to have the 2007 thread locked. I am just posting in the MFW MSPB thread because this nostalgic bullshit is retarded. I didn't invite you guys to this chat to say I didn't like the 2007 thread, I'm not PMing you saying OH YOU'RE FAGGOTS POSTING IN 2007 THREAD MURRDURR
Deadly Virus: Then whats the point?
Spawner: Then what ARE you saying?
Bulet: Nostalgic Bullshit is retarded
Bulet: Don't talk about the site being dead
Bulet: And "reviving" it with something that doesn't help
Spawner: Nostalgia is all we have left unless you gets get in some fresh meat.
Spawner: I aint posting to revive SPB
Spawner: I'm posting because I like it.
Bulet: Really how do we get more people
Dangerous<33: Because, even if you aren't intentionally doing so, you dudes are giving off a serious vibe of trying to get everyone to do "no effort + little time" drawings and get any new users to go into the 2007 thread and learn the same habits.
Deadly Virus: But I'm not |:c
Spawner: I'd LIKE to revive SPB, but it doesn't like anyone is going to put in the effort
Bulet: I will put in the effort, Shackles wiill
Deadly Virus: I dont give a shit what new users do, 2007 is just our little thread for pure unscripted brawl fun
Bulet: Anyone who cares will
Bulet: Then Virus you're part of the problem
Spawner: Right so, I'm giving off a vibe of no-effort = good
Spawner: Well
Deadly Virus: I'll put in the effort to revive it, but we need a conscious effort from EVERYONE
Spawner: Well shit
Spawner: That's just unlucky for you
Spawner: Because I don't care. I will continue to post there and have fun doing it, if other people come along and post there too, brilliant. It means activity
Spawner: Something actually fucking happening
Bulet: Any activity at all = Good
Spawner: Yes
Bulet: We don't want the 2007 to become SPB
Dangerous<33: I want to revive SPB too, but these dumb nostalgic posts and stuff that SK is starting is so useless, and SPB IS an art community. We don't judge people for having issues with art, we don't put them down if we don't think they're good at drawing, we just want to give people encouragement to try.
Spawner: I mean goddamn. You guys have friends, right?
Spawner: Go tell them about it
Dangerous<33: Also, I did invite a friend from school, meepmeep26.
Bulet: We are Spawner
Bulet: I invited some of my Steam Friends
Spawner: I guess we're all here for different reason
Deadly Virus: Look, I just dont get the point of the drama
Bulet: We're trying to make this place better for everyone
Deadly Virus: I've seen too much of it at this point, we dont need to fling shit at eachother just cause of different opinions
Bulet: And you two are going "but we dont care"
Spawner: You say it's an art communtiy, maybe it is, but I'm not going to post some really nice art and challange myself and get better because of what SPB IS.
Deadly Virus: I DO care
Spawner: I'll do what I enjoy doing
Bulet: Bullshit Virus I've known you for so long I know you're not going to do shit about helping the site out
Spawner: If that's so bad then I might as well just act how I have the past 3 years and not give a fuck
Deadly Virus: Well what are you going to do?
Bulet: I'm going to go around and spread the word of the site
Bulet: I'm going to clean the forums up, so that when people come here they don't see bad drawings everywhere
Bulet: I'm going to TRY, which is something i don't think you will do at all Virus
Deadly Virus: Wtf are you talking about bulet :/
Deadly Virus: Why is everyone taking this so seriously?
Bulet: Let's be honest here virus do you expect me to belive you're going to help us out with t his
Deadly Virus: Its SPB for fuck sake
Bulet: Yes and we care about SPB
Deadly Virus: I'll put in the effort to draw and participate
Dangerous<33: Alright, then we're on the same page I suppose. I just don't want everyone to make an effort to get new users but then they never aspire to be better artists by picking up on the idea that you should post quickly and with minimal effort, but then be met with confusion when they see people spending weeks on 30-panel drawings with tons of detail and fullbodies everywhere.
Deadly Virus: Can't we have both?
Bulet: Shackles that's why I said clean up the forums
Bulet: In it's current state it will send a bad message
Spawner: They need to be doing SOMETHING. Can't we just have both?
Deadly Virus: I hope that doesnt mean deleting 2007, Bulet
Bulet: No
Bulet: Maybe
Spawner: You're making it sound like a complete reboot, Bulet
Spawner: Just be careful with what you clean up
Spawner: Lot's of memories lying around here
Bulet: I'm aiming at a complete reboot
Dangerous<33: You guys can have the 2007 thread. I don't like the thread, but I would never lock or delete it assuming I even had the power to.
Bulet: We will preserve the memories
Bulet: But make this place last
Deadly Virus: Just saying, this kind of thing never works
Deadly Virus: You'll end up killing the site if you start trying to force this super serious thing
Bulet: I want to see this place alive and some children still drawing in 2020
Spawner: Maybe you could make a sub-forum inside each forum and move all the old topics into the sub forum called "Pre-2012" or something
Spawner: All the memories are still there, and everything's clean and out of the way
Bulet: Hold up
Bulet: Now that we're all on the same page, we need to start thinking together on how to make this place better
Bulet: For that we need more people
Deadly Virus: Mmhm
Bulet: And Balto
Bulet: And some Mods n shit
Spawner: Does Balto still get on?
Bulet: never
Deadly Virus: I still think we need to get our current members involved more first
Bulet: He's a lazy ponyprick
Deadly Virus: Quality over quantity, as always
Bulet: Balance the two
Spawner: Perhaps for progress to be made, Balto needs to pass the torch to someone new.
Bulet: Yes
Bulet: I vote for Shackles
Spawner: Or at least give someone responsible the ability to manage the forums
Bulet: Shackles is hands down the person that cares the most about this place
Bulet: At the very least make Shackles a mod, if not Admin
Dangerous<33: I don't want to be a mod
Dangerous<33: or an admin
Spawner: I can't really say anything, I've been away for years, but I'm pretty sure he won't vandalise and delete everything.
Bulet: Why
Dangerous<33: Because, I like arguing with people, and I feel like people will be afraid of disagreeing with me or telling me off if I have a position of authority
Bulet: Yeah Shackles is a bro he wouldn't do anything wrong
Bulet: No no no no no
Bulet: You're getting this wrong
Spawner: Anyone got experiance in community and forum managment here?
Bulet: Not as a person of authority
Spawner: I do, but I don't think I'm the man for the job
Bulet: A person that has the power to edit the forums
Bulet: Spawner was a mod, IIRC
Dangerous<33: We have an official site, it just doesn't have the forum implemented yet
Spawner: I do a bunch of forum editing for Dorpz
Bulet: Let's implement that shit and get a clean slate
Spawner: He keeps screwing up and I fix everything
Bulet: A clean slate guys
Dangerous<33:
superpaintbrawl.com/Bulet: Who here can copy paste a forum code
Deadly Virus: I'll participate in this thing as long as you guys dont start power-tripping and deleting everything you dont like
Bulet: ban
Spawner: I agree with virus.
Bulet: ban
Spawner: We've seen this before.
Bulet: Hey Candybiu is a reg too right
Bulet: We should let him in on this imo
Spawner: Communties died because bad changes were made and the owners stopping giving a fuck.
Spawner: If we're gonna make changes, for fucks sake make sure everyone gets a say
Dangerous<33: Candy doesn't come around all that much
Dangerous<33: well, for 3D modeling and stuff, but not to actually participate in the community
Spawner: Virus knows this very well. If we don't get a say shit'll get fucked up
Bulet: We're all on the same level here
Bulet: A mod is not a cop here
Bulet: A mod is a trusted person who can manipulate the forums when needed
Bulet: Not by his own will
Bulet: Power trips and positions are something we don't have to worry about for now
Spawner: I can do that if you need me to.
Dangerous<33: The only mod we've really had that power-trips is Grimscott, honestly
Bulet: grim sux
Bulet: I'd demod her
Bulet: Because she does jack shit
Deadly Virus: Yeah, but shit can easily hit the fan in communities like these
Bulet: Mod Spawner, mod Shackles if he wants to
Bulet: How so, Virus
Deadly Virus: There's something about small, close-knit forums and communities that just make them breeding grounds for drama
Spawner: If we fuck up at this point, might as well pack your things and go. These changes we push will be crutial.
Dangerous<33: But Destructin feels like people will be intimidated if he gets into huge arguments with them so he seriously holds himself back, which is why I don't want to be a mod in anything
Deadly Virus: Spawner knows what I mean, Cheesecake is one example
Bulet: Does destructin have a steam
Bulet: Invite him
Dangerous<33: Also, I'm a huge source of drama because I like to argue a lot. I do it a lot even on large forums
Spawner: I've admin'd a bucketload of communities, I know how to handle these things, but I'm out of touch with SPB.
Dessy [AFEG] entered chat.
Bulet: Hey Des
Deadly Virus: Sup
Dessy [AFEG]: Hello
Dessy [AFEG]: i am des
Bulet: Someone wanna fill in Des on what's going on
Spawner: How to cover all this in a few sentences
Spawner: Uh
Bulet: uh we want to revive brawl, but really this time
Bulet: like clean shit up
Dessy [AFEG]: Again?
Bulet: demod people mod new people
Bulet: Get in touch with Balto to give someone Admin because Balto does jack shit
Bulet: Finish up the forums on the website
Bulet: Invite lots of new people
Dessy [AFEG] disconnected.
Bulet: Fffffffffffffffffffffff
Deadly Virus: If we're gonna do this thing, we need to actually put in the EFFORT and draw shit REGULARLY
Dangerous<33: His internet cut off
Spawner: SPB is starving, it hungers for fresh meat. Gonna push a reboot, clean up the forums. I'd suggest moving all the told topics into a sub-forum within each forum and starting anew. Then we can all repost our rosters and we can see who's really still around.
Spawner: Well.
Bulet: rofl
Spawner: Destructin doesn't give a fuck.
Dangerous<33: No, his internet cut off
Deadly Virus: I was a member and former admin/mod of another forum you guys dont know about
Dangerous<33: I was in a skype call with him and he disconnected from skype
Bulet: Oh
Deadly Virus: Like SPB, I kinda abandoned it after a while, but they tried to revive that place COUNTLESS times
Deadly Virus: Just ended up making them more dead than they were before
Bulet: The problem in the last few times we tried this
Bulet: Its the people wanted to revive it
Bulet: the people, not the king
Bulet: so we need a new king
Bulet: one of us
Spawner: It was kind of like hippies. "Let's do something, maaan"
Spawner: And then that's as far as it got
Bulet: Yeah
Bulet: To get this in gear we really need Balto
Bulet: And Grent
Bulet: Those 2 people
Bulet: Grent could use help with the site
Bulet: We should all help him as much as we can to finish the main forums so we can keep going
Spawner: My suggestions are as follows.
Make a sub forum within each forum called Pre-2012 or something, Move all the topics into these sub-forums so all of the forums are empty (with exeptions, keep city-wide and 2007 since they're still active.)
Spawner: New threads can then be made.
Deadly Virus: Yeah
Bulet: No no no
Bulet: Website
Spawner: It's a re-boot, but with all the ancient awesome intact.
Bulet: superpaintbrawl.com
Deadly Virus: It feels like SPB really needs some kind of wipe/reboot to kick itself back into gear
Spawner: Website will have the forus on them, will they not?
Bulet: Yes
Bulet: New forums
Deadly Virus: The site will come eventually, but we shouldnt sit on our ass and just wait for it to be finished
Bulet: Not a link to probords
Spawner: NEW forums you say.
Bulet: Yeah
Spawner: That means all of the old threads will be lost
Spawner: All 5 years of it.
Bulet: I don't have much experience but does it really require lots of coding
Bulet: Hhuh no we keep proboards as an "archive"
Bulet: Lock all threads or something, preserve what's here, and continue 2007/city wide in the new forums
Spawner: Are you sure that the old forums won't auto-delete once it gets no posts?
Dessy [AFEG] entered chat.
Spawner: I don't know about proboards, but freeforums does that.
Bulet: Iunno
Dessy [AFEG]: sorry
Bulet: What we should do now is uh
Dessy [AFEG]: power went out
Bulet: Copy paste this WHOLE CONVO
Bulet: onto the thread
Spawner: It happened to the first Johnsbuild forums. You remember, Virus?
Bulet: So people can catch up to this
Spawner: What thread?
Bulet: Shackles you want me to post errything?
Deadly Virus: Yeah spawner :c
Bulet: MFWMSPB
Spawner: I'll post all of my ideas in MFWMSPB once this convo is pasted
Bulet: Shack, paste this on?
Dangerous<33: uhh, I dunno
Spawner: Meanwhile, I'll finish the damn drawing I was doing with Virus
Bulet: We should, to get Des and Grent and Balto and whoever back into gear with us
Bulet: so we dont have to explain everytrhing we talked about
Bulet: I'm posting everything gogogo
Dessy [AFEG]: What are you guys trying to do?
Spawner: SPB is starving, it hungers for fresh meat. Gonna push a reboot, clean up the forums. I'd suggest moving all the told topics into a sub-forum within each forum and starting anew. Then we can all repost our rosters and we can see who's really still around.
Spawner: Basically
Spawner: Fixing SPB
Spawner: Giving it a good sweep and polish
Spawner: And then getting new members. For reals.